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  Dell Dimension XPS 466V by Bill Degnan - 01/18/2016 17:22
Dell Dimension XPS 466V
The 1993 Dell Dimension XPS 466V was one of the nicer 486 gaming machines built before the Pentium era. Click for larger view.

This computer needs a real time clock battery (CMOS). Currently one has to run Setup for each cold boot. This system has two Caviar model 2340 341 Mb hard drives. I installed a 1.2Mb 5 1/4" disk drive for utility purposes and I may add a CD ROM in the remaining open slot below the 1.44Mb 3.5 inch disk dive in the middle bay.

Dell Dimension 66 mHZ 486 CPU
Close-up of one of the BIOS chips (?). Click image for view of the surrounding motherboard chips. There's also a smaller BIOS chip nearby in slot C501 that may be the chip one flashes. Not sure, need a manual


Dell Dimension XPS 466V
Pictured here is the rear view of the Number Nine Computer Corporation GXE VL Video card. If I remember correctly my testing revealed the best performance is found with a display capable of 1980 x 1080 60hz. Click for larger view.


More Pictures

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  Sound Blaster 16 CT2230 by Bill Degnan - 02/05/2016 15:40
Sound Blaster 16 CT2230
The IDE Sound Blaster 16 Model CT2230 16 bit sound card. Click for view of entire card.


Rear ports showing connection from soundcard to external speaker, video card, etc.

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  Windows 3.1 IRQ conflict by Bill Degnan - 02/06/2016 08:03
I installed the JYEN jumper to activate the joy stick (I did not know this was necessary), but now when I go into Windows the display resolution is wrong, the system is unusable. Interesting conflict. Trying to find a solution or I will do without the joystick I guess.

Found this:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/133240

"..NOTE: Some sound cards and video adapters do not report all of the resources they are using to Windows. This can cause Device Manager to show only one device in conflict, or no conflicts at all. This can be verified by disabling the sound card, or by using the standard VGA video driver to see if the conflict is resolved. Note that this is a known problem with S3 video adapters and 16-bit Sound Blaster sound cards, or those sound cards that are using Sound Blaster emulation for Sound Blaster compatibility. .."

Soooo. Is.the Number Nine Computer Corporation GXE VL video card is the cause of conflict? Might this explain why the card came to me with the JYEN disconnected? The display works fine in everything except Windows when the JYEN is closed on the SB


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  Installed Win 3.11 by Bill Degnan - 02/06/2016 09:17
I formatted the C drive (left the D drive as is) and installed DOS 6.22 and Windows for Workgroups (Win 3.11). I also installed the MS Intellipoint Mouse software and the Sound Blaster 16 drivers. Now the system works perfectly, the video is better too. Huh. Glad I stuck with it.

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  Demo Video by Bill Degnan - 02/14/2016 07:59


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  BIOS and Win 3.1 / 3.11 drivers by Bill Degnan - 02/14/2016 17:35
Windows 3.11 Opening Screen
Windows version 3.11 / Windows for Worksgroups Splash Screen. This version of Windows was what most people had at the dawn of the WWW era, it was a networking extension of Windows 3.1. Click image for larger view.


I replaced the battery so I could save the BIOS and boot without having to set each time.

The service tag of my system is 304NT. The only driver from the Dell.com site was a BIOS update from 2000, which I downloaded (link below).

Netscape 3 running on Windows 3.11. I do not have a phone line to actually connect to the Internet, but I can install an ethernet card to connect that way instead. Click for larger view.


I found a Windows 3.1 S3 928 card OEM driver that matches the #9 GXE video card. My Dell SVGA display can handle the 64K colors 600 x 480 setting. I installed all drivers for this card, so I can use any display in the future. Modern flat-panel displays look even better. From an OEM standpoint, the GXE is a S3 928 card.

Joystick
I have the following game pads

1. microsoft sidewinder game pad
2. radioshack gamepad
3. Interact pc propad 4

I tried looking here: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid=29
...but there were no matches for Win 3.1, no CD drive.

I sent a query to the VCFed group and C. Liendo suggested checking here:

http://bretjohnson.us

SDWRGMPD1
From the site: "..DOS Driver for a Microsoft SideWinder digital GamePad. Microsoft doesn't make a DOS driver for any of their
SideWinder products - they want to force you into using Win95. SDWRGMPD will let you use your GamePad in just plain old DOS."

I set out to try the driver. I started with the Microsoft Sidewinder, but I found that it works better with the RadioShack gamepad. The RadioShack gamepad may be a clone of the Microsoft Sidewinder Game Pad intended for the SDWRGMPD. If you download the driver you'll find that the author created a utility called THRUSH that you can use to test your joystick.

Speed Racer in The Challenge of RacerX. Click image for larger view.


Download Drivers

Photos


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  Networking SMC Elite 16 by Bill Degnan - 02/29/2016 11:17
The 1992 SMC Elite 16 Ethernet card, known as the 8013 EWC. Click for larger view. There are a few other pictures if you click the link above that leads to all the pictures for this unit.


I found the default values for my card on the web:


HARDWARE
Network card make/model: SMC EtherCard
PLUS Elite16
Combo (8013 EWC)
Network card IRQ: 3
Network card IO address: 280
Network card memory address: D000
Network card BUS type: ISA16
Network card connectors: AUI/10Base2/10BaseT


I found also the following links related to Windows for Workgroups TCP/IP networking:


ftp://ftp.ntplx.net/pub/networking/wfw/

http://www.yale.edu/pclt/WINWORLD/CONTENTS.HTM

------------------------

I got the networking program installed to the point that I could enter the TCP/IP info. I used the default settings suggested. I was unable to connect to my home LAN.

I got the following error when Windows 3.11 loaded and attempted to connect to the network

"Your network adapter MS$W13EW is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information...." "...The following error occurred while loading protocol number 0. Error 58: The network has responded incorrectly. You may need to reconfigure the protocol using Network Setup"

I tried all available IRQ options in the Windows Network Setup program, but none worked. Some I could save (no conflicts), but there was no combination that prevented the above error, nor could I connect to my local LAN.

TO RESOLVE
I did not find the manual for the SMC Elite 16 8013 EWC network card, but I was able to locate the EZSTART program that SMC provided from this era and it happened to have the WFWG drivers (and lots of others). I ran the EZSTART program. Again, the program could not get the desired response from the card to configure it. Same kinds of errors WFWG was reporting.

With no luck I decided maybe "change the jumpers" ... See jumpers here:
http://vintagecomputer.n...16-8013-EWC_jumpers.jpg

I opened the PC cover to access the SMC card. I removed the W1 jumper, which was set to SOFT and stuck it on the middle position, (labled 280,3,D0000). No luck, EZSTART did not like it. Next I tried the far right position labeled 300,10,CC000.
This time the EZSTART program was able to run the card diagnostics. Apparently the default IRC conflicts with another service. EZSTART diagnostics reported that the Elite 16 card was OK.

Next, I extracted the appropriate drivers for Windows 3.11 supplied by SMC and installed them. EZSTART made the necessary changes to the Windows configuration and set the TPC/IP driver to use 300/10/CC000.

The EZSTART program saved the IRQ values to the SMC Elite 16's onboard ROM and instructed me to put the jumper back to the SOFT position (from far right to far left as it is in the picture now.) and reboot the computer.

I have a copy of Netscape 2.0 and now I can access web pages on the WWW.

Windows 3.11 Networking Add-on
SMC EZSTART program and drivers
(more than just Win 3.11 (NT 3.5, OS/2, Novell, etc.)

vintagecomputer.net Windows 3.11 style! Works!


Telnet Starwars connected to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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  We've come full circle by Bill Degnan - 03/02/2016 10:00
It's more possible than it has been in years to use a Win 3.1 Netscape system to access properly-done responsive device-independent web sites. They're treated like they're mobile phones, and the sizing is nice, works. I had no trouble doing anything on my site. As more and more sites become device independent, you'll find Win 3.1 will be more useful again. The only big gotcha is javascript, you have to turn that off when you browse modern web pages as some code is not compatible with early versions of Netscape (and I presume others of the 90's). You also have to be careful with large files and images. 486 systems have limits to ram. It's vital to use MEMMAKER to get the most of available Windows memory. So, it's not perfect but certainly better than you'd think. Try vintagecomputer.net for example. vcfed.org is also pretty good (I wrote the VCF exhibitor registration form).

I could see someone creating a Netscape 2.0 javascript update to close the loop and return Win 3.1 systems to compatibility. Ironic that the push to make web pages compatible with new mobile devices had the unintended consequence of making them also more compatible with Windows 3.1 systems too.

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  Replace Dead Motherboard by Bill Degnan - 04/09/2017 22:17
Dell Dimension 466V
The motherboard of the XPS referred to above died. I found a "non XPS" version of the Dimension 466V to use as the source of a replacement motherboard. It cane with a 3.5 drive and sound blaster card and a working mother board. The vanilla 466V is not exactly the same as the XPS 466V but with a few changes I was able to upgrade it to an "XPS". Compare with above picture of the front panel label. Click image for larger view.


Dell Dimension 466V VGA port
The 466V motherboard has an internal VGA port, which is not present on the XPS version. This image shows the internal port and the jumper one has to remove in order to use a video card instead. Click image for larger view.


Sound Blaster CT1740
I removed the less-capable Sound Blaster CT1740 because it was missing the CSP/ASP chip (see empty socket in this image). Click image for larger view.


Cache RAM Dimension 466V motherboard
I migrated the cache RAM from the XPS motherboard into the open slots of the "non XPS" motherboard. The cache slots are not oriented the same as the XPS, but I guessed correctly where the chips should go. Click image for larger view.


System booted, works. While I was there I also added more RAM, so it's actually better now than before the motherboard died.

I did not bother to investigate whether than XPS 466V ROMS are any different than the "non XPS" ... I am unsure if XPS just means that it came with a nicer external video card and cache RAM pre-installed or more. As I sid, the motherboards are a litter different. I did not remove the CPU heat synch's on each mobo to check the CPU chips for differences. I am guessing they're the same. If anyone sees this post and has either model just remember their very close but not exactly the same. There is very little online about the 466V's.

Dell 466V pics

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